darth vader vs ezra and kanan

If we go by feats Vader force chokes Her before The fight starts. Besides Vader can only counter Ahsoka's flanking attacks by..... moving. Thanks to @lord_tenebrous for the quotes. Rebels Ahsoka has no Feats of coming close to doing this. Kanan Jarrus (born Caleb Dume) is the protagonist of the Star Wars television showStar Wars Rebels, as well as a Jedi Padawan and a Rebel leader of the Ghost crew.He is the captain of the shipGhostand also one of the few Jedi who survived both Order 66 and the ensuing Jedi Purge. The time period between Rebels and ROTJ is far less than the difference between Rebels and ROTS...yet you think Rebels sidious is only marginally more powerful than ROTS sidious...but Rebels Sidious is Significantly weaker than ROTJ Sidious? How? Well, that's why we use critical analysis. Maul would probably arrogance his way to death near the end but yeah the group would likely still win. At first the fight seems very lopsided, though the shock on his face when Kanan uses Ezra's saber as a blaster was incredible. The quote says that Vader and Sidious are the only ones who can go "blow to blow with her" AKA be not stompable fodder. Vader is stated to be Vastly Greater than Both of them as per Canon statements from Disney. Given that passive force shields don't exist in canon Vader loses hard here. One or two may die in the process. Of course he died in 2 or 1bby, but Ezra needs a lot more training time than days or weeks or months. Could you provide a scan for the sea of lava feat? Both Ahaoka and Maul fought in the clone wars and were trained by the most powerful of their time, while Kanan had some training during the clone wars but not very much. Vader oneshots Kanan and Ezra right from the start. Sabine Wren, a Mandalorian. Vader wins, even using Vader Comic Feats Vader just 24 hours from Obi-wan>>Any Version of ahsoka. It should be the other way around, Rebels Sidious should be Significantly more powerful than ROTS Sidious...while ROTJ Sidious should only be Marginally more powerful than Rebels Sidious. Which is why I keep telling you that those words are contradicted by Feats and portrayal. The not being a pushover statement was specifically in regards to Vader. That's just it though, even if we assume they all agree to fight together, who says they are an effective team? That leaves Ahsoka and Maul, which are … Kanan has even taken down The Grand Inquisitor, which is pretty impressive. In that scan, Ahsoka is just as massively pre-prime, so not sure what that proves. Based on the new comics showcasing Vaders combat prowess, I honestly don't think they would have stood a chance. You said Malachor did not explode because the kyber-crystal was small and therefore weaker. Vader 5 years after ROTS was able to Keep up with Sidious in speed, Stated to surpass Anakin. Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine vs Ahsoka Tano, Ezra, Kanan, Maul, Obi Wan and Luke skywalker. Irrelevant, Anakin has massively more potential than Ahsoka. It's like when you create an All Star team but they have no chemistry; just cause they're all amazing doesn't mean they get the win. By the time he was nine, he was discovered by Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn, who came to believe that Skywalker was the Chosen One of Jedi lore, destined to destroy the Sith and bring balance to The Force. If Luke decided to walk in and bring conflict into Vaders soul Ahsoka would beat him. Either way, Ahsoka lasted over thirty seconds the second time where Vader was not hindered, which is a pretty big length. Growing up a slave, he and his mother belonged to Gardulla the Hutt and later to a Toydarian junk dealer named Watto. Ezra Bridger He studied form 4 from a holocron recording of Anakin Skywalker. Kanan and Ezra are both nuisances at this point that will briefly distract Vader, allowing Maul or Ahsoka to gain an edge against him. Yeah he is stupid powerfull in the new comics. Are those Vader comic feats canon? Moreover, Dave filoni during an interview tell use what happening in Vader Mind, where he states that after Ahsoka Told Vader she will "Never" Leave him, Anakin than Retreats into Vader. I defy you to watch Vader’s effortless fight against Kanan and Ezra — the scene where he lifts the crashed walkers off himself in particular — and not get chills. Press J to jump to the feed. She was very talented as a teenager and for this she'd be in her late 20's/early 30's and I imagine would be much better than she was. Kyber-Crystal shockwave was potent enough to Atomize Cruise ships and tie fighter ships, Vader when he used to force incapacitated Ahsoka for at least 30 seconds...this proves domination over her doesn't matter what you say. It was a jedi Master which I showed the scan above. Ahsoka by herself got him to a stalemate, they would have took him relatively easily. I just told you above the proof, According to Dave Filoni Vader in the original scene was suppose to fight Ahsoka After Defeating Maul. Darth Vader also battled Ezra Bridger on Lothal during Star Wars: Rebels. Headcanon. If Dooku has inferior feats, an accolade saying he is better says nothing. in rebels Vader survived a KyberCrystal explosion to the face. Which jedi are they talking about? Star Wars creator George Lucas has collectively referred to the first six episodic films of the franchise as "the tragedy of Darth Vader".. For that first one showing him blocking Sidious's blade, I doubt Sidious put all his force or speed into slashing the girl, because I do not think Sidious expected Vader to try and block it. Vader kills him by endangering the lives of the citizens of his city, which distracts him, and Vader snaps his neck. In Rebels Maul who can Argue is Comparable to Rebels Ahsoka Loses to Vader in Seconds. The only person alive who can kill Vader is Palpatine but this is definitely the best team alive to try it and i think they could get close. They landed the same amount of force attacks on each other, and they had equal effect. Vader will then interact with the dying Ahsoka, and put her out of her mysery. While walking through visions, he saw himself and his former Padawan, the Togruta Ahsoka Tano, meeting each other in a temple and dueling with their lightsabers as the words of "It was foretold that you would be here", "I am no Jedi" and "You will die" resounded in his mind. As I have said, she could block him because he was weakened. Yeah, I have a hard time gauging Ahsoka's power levels. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. You need to proof that he meant easily defeat Ahsoka and not just kill her, because killing her could take 10 minutes for all we know. Quote? Whether that caused Ahsoka and Kanan to fight better as they give in to the dark side anger fuel or get sloppy and die similarly, not sure. Its up there with Anakin vs Obi-Wan Ep3, Maul vs Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon Jinn Ep1, Vader vs Luke Ep5&6, and any of the best ones from SW The Clone Wars. Ezra would be mortally wounded immediately, which woukd distract Kanan and then Kanan would be dead soon after. So he dies by one or the other. You need to prove that different Kyber-Crystal Make different size explosion. Star Wars is an American epic space opera franchise, created by George Lucas and centered around a film series that began with the eponymous 1977 movie. I even thought Ashoka doing as well as she did was a tad out of character as well. Ezra could just run interference. Vader Defeated someone superior to ROTS Obi-wan his first day in the Suit. Also, what feat are you referring to 24 hours after Mustafar? I contest that Vader is vastly superior to prime Maul or prime Dooku. At the end of the day, Vader is Vader, brutal and immensely powerful, and Maul has a tendancy to be arrogant and would eventually be taken down as a result, and Ahsoka would be soon to follow as well. Surpass Anakin in everything, or just certain areas? Also so that he could show off by effortlessly lifting that AT-ST because he's a narcissistic jerk. According to Dave (which you keep using to push ahsoka above her weight class ) Ahsoka is the only Jedi at this time who can match Vader or Sidious. Kanan, well, even earlier. Each battle takes place in the Death Star II ruins. Even though he does have more potential, that does not mean he is automatically stronger. I don't know anyone in the imperial era that was still on Sidious's level, except for Yoda just after ROTS, and even he was slightly weaker. In Canon Vader is far Closer to Sidious, then in Legends. Kanan has fought a lot of things alongside his crew. However, I do believe she genuinely blocked Sidious's lightning in the temple because he was weakened and he had no reason to hold back. C $86.62 + shipping . Even in the Original scene Vader was suppose to duel Ahsoka right after defeated Maul. Definitely, but not close enough to win this. While he's distracted with Ahsoka they knock him down and Snips takes his head off. Contrary to that, he said that Ahsoka would not be a pushover and could last for quite some time. Round 1: Kylo vs Kanan Round 2: Kylo vs Ezra Round 3: Rey vs Kanan Round 4: Rey vs Ezra Round 5: Kylo and Rey vs Ezra and Kanan All fighters are in-character and at their respective peaks (no "All the Jedi" amp for Rey, though). The Sith Lord came close to killing Ezra after using the Force to turn the Padawan's lightsaber towards his neck. yes, the Vader comic feats are canon. It not head canon, it facts. It does not mean the she is near Sidious, all it means is that Sidious can match her. Kanan and Ezra are both nuisances at this point that will briefly distract Vader, allowing Maul or Ahsoka to gain an edge against him. In pure skill most likely. In any case, she was fighting both Anakin and Obi-wan in that fight, so it is something to take into consideration. Care to dbunk it? Vader did not force incapacitate her out of force dominance, he force pushed her off a cliff, and not even that far. He's still powerful and effective but the playing field has been leveled especially against agile opponents like Ahsoka and Maul. At first I thought Vader would kill them all with ease. Vader wins because the force, the power behind everyone involved, wants him to win. The thing is, it was never implied in the scan that Vader Gained a massive huge boost from Rage he felt. Don't see where Filoni said Ahsoka could easily be beaten by a fresh Vader, let alone one who had just fought another Ahsoka-tier character in Maul. Star Wars Rebels season 2: Darth Vader fights Ezra and Kanan, Will Han Solo appear in the premiere episode? He scales to Ahsoka based on his fight with her, and some quotes put him as > than her. He would need to keep increasing since Vader was massively growing stronger in the force and surpassed Anakin in the force in just 5 Years. Ezra Bridger, and Kanan Jarrus vs Kylo Ren Kanan Jarrus who used to be known as Caleb Dume was born sometime around 33 bby he was taken to the Jedi temple at a very young age, and was raised in temple later during the clone wars he was assigned to Jedi master Depa Biliba(please correct), but fought only one time before Order 66. Ahsoka had a Stylistic Advantage over Vader Style of dueling, which was stated before Vader Fought her and he still kept her on the defense the whole duel. Anakin yes, but not full blown dark side clunky suit Vader. The problem is Ezra and Kanan would have to take out Vader extremely quickly in order to assist Ashoka and Kenobi with the fact that by then, they'd be losing their respective duels. File:Kanan vs the Grand Inquisitor at the communication tower.png; File:Kanan vs the Sentinel.png; File:Kanan's final moments.jpg; Like I said above, you don't need to be equal to someone to Kill them you can be weak and Still kill them, just like Mace almost killed sidious. Even if she is below prime Maul or Dooku, she is not tiers below them and is still good enough to contend with Vader. Lets Start! Oh, I didn't know that. Kanan and Darth Vader. what George Lucas said about The fight pre-Disney doesn't negate what the Actual Canon Writers stated which that a fight between Vader can Sidious can go either way. I'm just repeating what was said. Irrelevant. Shortly after the Battle of Fortress Vader, Darth Vader entered a portal constructed by Lord Momin to resurrect his wife Padmé Amidala. He was born to Ephraim and Mira Bridger, two outspoken opponents of the Imperial regime on Lothal. Also, regarding Vader vs Sidious, in the ROTJ or ESB novel (cannot recall which one, but it was in a shuttle) Vader was scared out of his mind of Sidious, and when he contemplated using Luke to beat Sidious, Sidious read his mind, caused him pain, and demanded he come to meet him. Ok, here we Go! Logically, I would say Vader grew more from Rebels to ROTJ, or at least did not regress so much that ROTJ Sidious could stomp ROTJ Vader while Rebels Sidious could not do that to Rebels Vader. I am just pointing out that we cannot be certain that he could do it if Obi Wan, who was equal or slightly better than Anakin, was not there. I do not, but I do not consider Vader to be in it either. Since they are the same level of canon, 2>1. They never even fought, and we have no proof that the originally planned out fight between Maul and Vader would end in seconds. @mygod000: Yep. Vader would take heavy damage in this fight. He got more powerful later. The one on Malachor was a small one, it was also Removed from the Obelisks before it exploded. According to Daisy, they had no sense of direction on where they were going with the story. Him and Ezra even managed to stand against Darth Vader, both of the jedi knocking an AT-ST on Vader. Star Wars Rebels Seventh Sister Inquisitor & Darth Maul 3.75" 2 Pack Rogue One. Now, they're in the Holocron vault when Darth Vader arrives and decide to fight him to the death. Is she canonically more gifted than the average Force user? Working in tandem? Kanan and Ezra take on the Inquisitor. Vader just 5 years after ROTS is stated to have surpassed Dark Side Anakin power. Overall though, the others might provide enough of a distraction for his old padawan. Most of the damage Vader sustained was from Ahsoka attacking from behind when he wasn't expecting her. According to feats, Vader could not do that to prime Ahsoka, as they fought and he used the force on her, but did not force choke her. These feats seem to line up with each other in terms of how powerful Ahsoka is and it is all we have, which means that she IS that powerful. However, they specifically mentioned power, which is not equal to skill. Where is the proof that this crystal shockwave is as strong as the other crystal shockwave? You just contradicted yourself. Could it be that Kanan died? Vader sees the strong force potential within Ezra and Corrupts his mind, training him as a secret apprentice and eventually forcing him to take up the mantle of StarKiller. Perhaps even life threatening injuries as he would be overwhelmed by two skilled combatants with 2 blades each. Ezra Bridger was a human male Jedi Padawan who, as an orphan on the Outer Rim planet of Lothal, became a rebel fighter and revolutionary leader in the early rebellion against the Galactic Empire. We've already seen weaker versions of Kanan and Ezra body a pre-occupied Vader. We have proof it applies to darksiders because Maul was amped after Savage died. For all we know, Vader could come out near death with tons of wounds on him after a duel that lasted 10 minutes and he had to stay in a bacta tank for days. So far, according to Oxford, it is killing her and not easily beating her. I can't find the Quote right now. That's why Kanan and Ezra's attack did noth- oh wait. Well, this is Star Wars and that means destiny and the will of the force are things that affect the outcome of events. In Darth Vader #3 and #4 Vader gets his ass handed to him by a powerful jedi. Unless you think that Vader got weaker before Rebels, all this means is that Ahsoka scales to that. One scenario I always thought of for this fight is Maul, Kanan, Ezra and Ahsoka will line up to face Vader 4 on 1, but as part of Maul's plan to lure Ezra to the darkside and to become Maul's apprentice, he plans on him Stabbing Ahsoka in the back and Ezra stabbing Kanan in the back, Ezra chickens out of killing Kanan, Maul impales Ahsoka through the back, and it ends up being Vader vs Maul and Kanan vs Ezra, both fights are even, but eventually, Vader begins to over power Maul and will eventually cut Maul down, whereas Kanan vs Ezra is a stalemate, Kanan convinces Ezra to come back to him after witnessing Vader kill Maul, Ezra agrees.

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